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<p class="Question"> 2. I read that Clarence Maki gave you surfing lessons when you were eight. What was his style of teaching and is there anything you still remember from those lessons?</p>
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<p class = Photocaption>John at Canoes, Waikiki on December 23.1954 </p>
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<p class = Photocaption>Front and back cover of John's 2024 book on Clarence Maki. </p>
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<center> <p class = Photosource> Photo by Clarence Maki and John Clark</p></center>
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<p class="Question">3. When did you first start riding paipo boards regularly? What got you interested in them?</p>